tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post843960036445903105..comments2023-07-13T06:34:31.965-05:00Comments on Fear and Trembling: The Face of TerrorJ. K. Joneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-4961857133355605172011-10-21T11:51:18.183-05:002011-10-21T11:51:18.183-05:00Anonymous,
Are you the same anonymous commenter t...Anonymous,<br /><br />Are you the same anonymous commenter that has commented above or are you new to the thread?<br /><br />Three things:<br /><br />Jesus did volunteer. He said, “No one takes [my life] from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father” (see John 10:17-18). He J. K. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-50393495585528062392011-10-20T17:31:53.095-05:002011-10-20T17:31:53.095-05:00Hal makes a lot of sense with this comment.
&quo...Hal makes a lot of sense with this comment. <br /><br />"Think about it from a non-Christian perspective, for my sinfulness another man was wrongly killed and this is somehow Justice. We marvel at the communities from yester-years, who committed human sacrifices of virgins to appease the Gods but we see them as corrupted. Yelling on the cross God why have you forsaken me, does not make a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-12265911438316250922011-08-08T16:03:43.866-05:002011-08-08T16:03:43.866-05:00Hal,
You sure do comment allot. Please take one ...Hal,<br /><br />You sure do comment allot. Please take one thing at a time so I can respond better. It will help the conversation move along more smoothly.<br /><br />You never did respond to my citation of Isaiah 53. It is quite the passage on substitutionary atonement; really the clearest one in the Bible in either testament.<br /><br />I think that the Comforter was the Holy Spirit sent to J. K. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-12389445676986950582011-08-06T10:16:55.057-05:002011-08-06T10:16:55.057-05:00JK, Most definitely God is Holy, one of many attri...JK, Most definitely God is Holy, one of many attributes, as well as “Forgiving” and “Merciful”. Yes, God has prepared a reward of paradise and a punishment of hell.<br /><br /><br />If the cross was a universal and most fundamental principle, or the only means of salvation, wouldn’t it had made more sense for that to be the first teaching ever and all other teaching to spring from that. This is Halnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-87122692147800498432011-08-06T09:33:14.865-05:002011-08-06T09:33:14.865-05:00Hey JK,
Sorry for inundating you. But Ramadan has...Hey JK,<br /><br />Sorry for inundating you. But Ramadan has started and I’m still working, so after the fasting the whole day, we pray for a large portion of the night but I’m off from work today and feel free and feel good.Halnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-45083303939999017242011-08-06T09:27:49.910-05:002011-08-06T09:27:49.910-05:00Hal,
I did not delete your comment. I so not kno...Hal,<br /><br />I did not delete your comment. I so not know what happened. I will try to check when I return from the short vacation I am on this weekend. <br /><br />I will response to your comments by Teusday. <br /><br />Thanks for your patience<br /><br />JKJ. K. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-12506850956039963152011-08-06T09:13:22.058-05:002011-08-06T09:13:22.058-05:00Isaiah also speaks about the “Time of Refreshing” ...Isaiah also speaks about the “Time of Refreshing” and again just as Peter linked the time of Refreshing to a “Prophet like unto Moses” and Jesus speaks of the comforter, this spirit of truth who will tell them things that Jesus could not, that would be reproving the word of sin and speaking the word of God, Isaiah links the “Time of Refreshing” to this EXTRAORDINARY event. Which remarkably enoughHalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-73126534731627828532011-08-06T09:04:23.878-05:002011-08-06T09:04:23.878-05:00Peter links the time of “time of refreshing” to th...Peter links the time of “time of refreshing” to the coming of the “prophet liken unto Moses” Which comes from Duet 18, which says<br /><br />I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. <br /><br /> 19And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words Halnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-35364846762476981882011-08-06T08:52:22.247-05:002011-08-06T08:52:22.247-05:00If you don’t accept the timeframe of something hap...If you don’t accept the timeframe of something happening, as mentioned by Peter that is fine but you can’t so easily dismissed the words of Jesus because he also gives a time-frame of something extraordinary happening after his departure. <br /><br />After Jesus’ leave a COMFORTER will come and what a period of REFRESHING occurs. Lets listen to Jesus again:<br /><br /> And when he is come, he Halnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-37332270937319252852011-08-06T08:26:47.005-05:002011-08-06T08:26:47.005-05:00”Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your ...”Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. <br /><br />And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:<br />Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things<br /><br />It about the timeframe, this address is made undoubtedly after the first coming. Halnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-29286581812007504002011-08-06T07:51:36.059-05:002011-08-06T07:51:36.059-05:00JK
I submitted a post before my last it was up th...JK<br /><br />I submitted a post before my last it was up there initially but now it’s. I don’t think it was anything offensive. I took the time to admit that I was wrong and you are 100%, I mistakenly attributed a saying to Jesus (pbuh) but it was John in my haste. For this I apologize, I meant the verse pertaining to the “COMFORTER”hALnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-70447853344586945182011-08-05T05:31:40.904-05:002011-08-05T05:31:40.904-05:00Hal,
I fail to see how the King James helps your ...Hal,<br /><br />I fail to see how the King James helps your case here.J. K. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-24170751408216314702011-08-05T05:30:54.902-05:002011-08-05T05:30:54.902-05:00Hal,
What about Isaiah 53? Psalms 22? There ar...Hal,<br /><br />What about Isaiah 53? Psalms 22? There are others.J. K. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-16431559062545325352011-08-04T06:17:35.181-05:002011-08-04T06:17:35.181-05:00As far as the King James version and your plain En...As far as the King James version and your plain English version “appointed” and “WHICH BEFORE WAS PREACHED ONTO YOU” or not synonymous terms and both can’t be direct translations from the Greek. A lexicon is needed in this case, and I would say this is one of several reasons why there is King James only movement amongst Christians.Halnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-39476862977628945912011-08-04T06:12:35.575-05:002011-08-04T06:12:35.575-05:00First and foremost, let me say you are absolutely ...First and foremost, let me say you are absolutely correct and retract my comments revolving around the quote I attributed to Jesus (pbuh) and it was John (pbuh). I mixed up my arguments in respect to the “Another Comforter” that Jesus (pbuh) spoke of. <br /><br />Yes, God is Holy one of many attributes, as is the “All-Powerful” or “All-Knowing”, etc..etc..<br /><br />If you are saying the cross Halnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-81227046530294435832011-08-01T08:26:06.010-05:002011-08-01T08:26:06.010-05:00Hal,
Is God holy? Does holiness mean that He mus...Hal,<br /><br />Is God holy? Does holiness mean that He must hate sin? <br /><br />Is God just? Does justice mean He must punish people who sin?<br /><br />If hatred and punishment are required by a holy and just God, then Christ’s death on the cross for our sins is necessary.<br /><br />Thanks for the quote from Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 56, Number 676. I am willing to learn about Islam.J. K. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-71857386283453012532011-07-30T15:10:17.567-05:002011-07-30T15:10:17.567-05:00Totally in conjunction with the above timeframe:
...Totally in conjunction with the above timeframe:<br /><br />Jesus stated John 1:<br /><br />"He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose."<br /><br />Again the sequence of events is crystal clear, it referring to someone that will come after him, him being Jesus (pbuh) but even much more significant Jesus talks about his Halnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-14883641969221761632011-07-30T15:01:54.390-05:002011-07-30T15:01:54.390-05:00J.K.
Timeframe:
Something extraordinary a “TIME ...J.K.<br /><br />Timeframe:<br /><br />Something extraordinary a “TIME OF REFRESHING” was to occur after Jesus’ (pbuh) first coming and before his second coming. After Jesus’ (pbuh) first coming, Peter announced:<br /><br />”Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord. <br /><br />And he shall send Halnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-50019835130286346172011-07-30T14:46:23.446-05:002011-07-30T14:46:23.446-05:00Anonymous,
I have an open mind, so please jump ri...Anonymous,<br /><br />I have an open mind, so please jump right in, add clarity to the blur, shed light to our confusion. There is already a degree of anonymity on the Internet, as your name implies a need to be faceless and nameless but your in a safe space, no need to be scared to say what you actually stand for and build, rather than make comments from the sidelines that add nothing to the Halhttp://toocool777@gmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-26326771023320734752011-07-30T14:38:04.140-05:002011-07-30T14:38:04.140-05:00I don’t know how much you know about is Islam but ...I don’t know how much you know about is Islam but the following is a Hadith, which is an oral tradition traced back as the words of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). This Oral tradition should cement the point to you of what believe as God’s ability to forgive.<br /><br />The following is based on a hadith from Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 56, Number 676. <br /><br /><br />There was a man who had Halhttp://toocool777@gmail.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-128484536113081212011-07-30T14:32:45.471-05:002011-07-30T14:32:45.471-05:00Allah has made us perfect, but not in the sense th...Allah has made us perfect, but not in the sense that we don’t commit sins, but in the sense that after committing sins we repent and ask for forgiveness. We have no mediator, no one is sacrificed for us, Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him) is a man, a creation, albeit we would argue the best of creation. <br /><br />The equation for being forgiven is BELIEF: God is one, with no partners, noHalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-59083204269896588942011-07-25T12:46:22.227-05:002011-07-25T12:46:22.227-05:00Hal,
Another way: can a truly holy God just forgi...Hal,<br /><br />Another way: can a truly holy God just forgive? Would not some sacrifice hav eto be paid?J. K. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-84249141650024983252011-07-25T12:43:16.817-05:002011-07-25T12:43:16.817-05:00Anonymous,
You don't have to talk past us as ...Anonymous,<br /><br />You don't have to talk past us as if we are not here. <br /><br />I have presented supperior arguments thus far, and I have not yet even begun to discuss his holy book. <br /><br />Hal,<br /><br />Please note that my most recent question remains unanswered: how does a holy God accept sinful people in Islam? What does the Qur'an teach on this subject?J. K. Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02329537522697826005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-72288556556348864622011-07-25T11:18:49.268-05:002011-07-25T11:18:49.268-05:00Emptiness was probably too harsh a word.
Still b...Emptiness was probably too harsh a word. <br /><br />Still both sides thinks of their arguments as convincing, yet each of them finds themselves unconvinced when their opponent uses the exact same argument.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5392276397477014575.post-34638397836767811182011-07-25T11:08:58.283-05:002011-07-25T11:08:58.283-05:00This whole exchange is a near perfect illustration...This whole exchange is a near perfect illustration of the emptiness of religious belief. Both of them whole hardheartedly believe in the truth of their respective holy texts and yet find the similar arguments their counterpart uses unconvincing. <br /><br />Confirming apologetics is only convincing to someone who already believes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com