6/20/2009

SBC to PCA

After an extended period of soul searching, I have decided to change religious denominations.
I have long self-identified as a “five-point Calvinist.” But I found myself avoiding the term in my Southern-Baptist home church because it was so often misunderstood. Recent conflicts in the SBC over Calvinism have left me even more disillusioned (see here and here).

I am simply tired of feeling like I must hide my beliefs in this area “under a bushel.” I am going to become a Presbyterian.

I have become convinced over recent weeks that I can affirm the beliefs held by The Presbyterian Church in America as expressed here and here. I have not decided for certain, but I can see joining that church in the near future.

This will begin an adventure, a whole-new phase of my Christian experience. I hope that you will hold me in your prayers.

14 comments:

Joe Blackmon said...

See, for me the thing is their deal with infant baptism. I can't affirm that. Their eschatology is a wee bit on the goofy side for me but I could agree to disagree on that.

Les Puryear said...

Let me encourage you to try a different SBC church than the one you're in. There are a lot of Calvinst SBC churches. One place to locate many of them is http://founders.org/misc/chlist/.

Blessings to you and your family.

Les Puryear

Andrew said...

Will your everyday behavior change as a result of this? You're still a man after God's heart so I think not.

J. K. Jones said...

Joe, I am begining to think that the continuity of the covenant of grace requires infant baptism. If the church is the church, New Testament or Old, then the covenant sign would also be consistent. I welcome discussion as I can still learn much on this.

Les, in rural West Tennessee, there are no Calvinistic Baptisit churches, and I find my views unwelcome.

Andrew, thanks for your complement. Are you sure you don't have me confused with someone else? The only real day to day change is learning to be patient and loving toward some who do not understand what I am doing and make rude comments. This, of course, does not included any commentors on this blog so far.

Steve said...

Godspeed on your journey, J.K..

I'm a big R.C. Sproul fan.(Presbyterian, I believe)

I think you are moving much closer to the truths of the Christian faith, and into a much more Christ centered theology, which (in my belief) includes God's regenerative work in baptism...infant or otherwise.

May God bless you and lead you where He will.

L P said...

Follow wherever the Word leads you.

Calvinists look at Baptism as covenantal.

Lutherans look at it as testamental a nuanced difference, as in last will and testament of Jesus. To baptize children is part of executing that last will and testament, since Jesus died for them too as a gift.

LPC

Anonymous said...

Newsflash: Person who worships figment of imagination decides to worship figment in a different way.

J. K. Jones said...

Newsflash: Anonymous comment made by coward who does not argue well.

bob said...

Mr. Jones, I read the "What We Believe" link you provided. Having been a believer myself for 25 years, holding membership in Independent Baptist, Southern Baptist, Presbyterian, and Wesleyan church's, and now, as an atheist for the past 9 years, I have to wonder, concerning the link - It establishes clearly WHAT they believe, but not a hint of "Why We Believe".
No, I am not asking for biblical references for each belief. I just wonder why, in all of the doctrinal disputes, questions, name calling and finger pointing, why don't believers ever ask them selves, "Why do I believe ANY of this"? It would seem to me that WHY you believe ANY of this is far more important than WHAT you believe.

I found your blog via Debunking Christianoity.

bob

J. K. Jones said...

Bob, thanks for your comment. It may surprise you to know that I share your concerns.

Many Christians do not ask "why" enough. There are good answers, good reasons to believe Christianity to be true. I have posted about many of those here and cI'mmented on them elsewhere.

You might try some of the labels to the right. Some is interest would start with "The Argument From...". I am working on a new series of posts that Are
more clear, but you might
find the ones under the search label "Nine Reasons Why..." to be helpful.

I hope to hear from you more.

J. K. Jones said...

Buy the way, my wife was 'reading over my shoulder," so to speak.

She would like to know why you chose to become an athiest, and so would I.

bob said...

J.K., thanks for the response. I will do some reading in your blog and links.

As for my change from bible believer to atheist, I don't think I actually "chose" to stop believing, or become an atheist.
I think it was a result of the misery and discouragement (mostly self induced) that was my life as a believer.
While in the midst of this crisis of faith, which lasted many years, the option of atheism never crossed my mind until it happened. Once I discovered that there were people out there (thank you internet) who used to believe as I did, but stopped, and they had good reasons for stopping, I discovered that I no longer had any faith in the God I had believed in for so long.

I kept a rather haphazard journal as a Christian. Perhaps reading it (probably 10 minutes worth of reading at most) will better give you and the Mrs an idea of what it was like for me, a completely miserable Christian. I keep an equally haphazard blog and my journal is the first entry:

http://i-smell-smoke.blogspot.com/2007_07_22_archive.html

I would enjoy reading your thoughts as well.

For what it's worth, many years ago, as a member of an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, I began to consider, after doing some studying on my own, that infant baptism may very well be biblical. So, thinking for myself may have been the beginning of the end of my faith.

bob
r.u.reasonable@gmail.com

J. K. Jones said...

Bob,

I will read your blog ASAP.

However, I just accepted a challenge to a formal debate on the ressurection of Jesus with Spencer over at Debunking Christianity.

That may take up my time for awhile.

Talk to you soon.

JK

J. K. Jones said...

Two updates:

My formal debate with Spencer broke down when we could not agree on a format.

I am being seriously considered for ordination as a deacon in the PCA!

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