The Second Law of Thermo and Evolution

Great book and article here.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics,that entropy is increasing, points to increases in disorganization and decreases in usable energy in the universe. How does evolution explain that organized entities arise from disorganized matter? The arguments at the link are detailed and show that evolutionary explanations are inadequate.


Anonymous said...

I had no idea you were an IDiot.

I award you +10 on the Waste of Time Scale.

J. K. Jones said...

Then don't waste your time here.

Ryan Anderson said...

The universe in general experiences entropy, the earth however is not a closed system and receives energy from the sun. As long as that the case, the entropy's not an issue for the theory of evolution.

J. K. Jones said...

Ryan, I'll let Granville Sewell's position stand for itself.

Out of personal interest, is the universe as a whole a closed system?

Curt Cameron said...

The only processes necessary for evolution to occur are reproduction, heritable variation, and selection. All of these are seen to happen all the time, so, obviously, no physical laws are preventing them.

Index to Creationist Claims #CF001

Granville Sewell is speaking way outside his specialty when he talks about evolution or physics.

J. K. Jones said...

Curt Cameron,

Thnaks for your comments. I knew there was a reason I din't normally use this argument. Again, I'll let Sewell stand up for himself.

I am curious to know if you think the universe as a whole is a closed system.

Curt Cameron said...

I had "thermo" in college, but that was about 30 years ago. My answer is that you need to be specific about what you're talking about: are you referring to a Closed System or an Isolated System?

My understanding is that the traditional cosmological view is that the universe itself is both closed and isolated, but in some interesting newer models, the universe may be closed but not isolated (look up the Ekpyrotic Universe sometime). Again, I've had a lot of physics but it's not my profession.

Anonymous said...

"Ryan, I'll let Granville Sewell's position stand for itself."

Translation: I don't really understand it but it jives with what I was told the answer is so I will go with that.

J. K. Jones said...


Actually, it means that I do not agree with everything that Sewell says. I posted it because it was interesting, not because I believe it is proof in and of itself.

It's good to hear from you again. I missed the insults.


J. K. Jones said...


I looked at the links. Thanks.

How is this discussion releveant?


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